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welcome to camp fire chronicles episode number ten this is andrew i'm robi brian and today we're going to be talking about little news update what's been going on in our lives and then also we're going to talk about what influences us as far as camping and hiking and the show itself yep okay let's let's start with the bad news okay so some bad news yeah so we're gonna go tomorrow actually to shenandoah national park with black outdoors unfortunately something happened last minute and they can't go but we will be collaborating with him in the future so we'll keep you hustling for that like a day I got a shirt I was gonna wear it in everything yeah that's really unfortunate yeah um but yeah we were going to Shannon Dora and we're gonna leave still happening any no I yeah with nothing so and our Brian you have a question for yes we wanted to pose a question at the beginning of our podcast so you guys can tell us your thoughts so the topic is what influences us we want to know what influences you guys to go outside to go camping go hiking and or just get outdoors so leave a comment and let us know because we like to hear your stories what like what drew us to it because I know like we initially went out because my brother he took us out to hocking hills yeah and that was like when we were like all camping can be awesome yeah yeah but like what about that was so alluring to us I think I don't know I thought I thought it was just because like the scenery was just beautiful and I think it just naturally drew us you know we were naturally drawn to that and I think initially it was like this the fact that you could have such mind-blowing scenery but also the experience of being out in the wild and adventuring like you guys so funny thing about old man's cave is it I didn't even know that a place like that exists yeah yeah that place was mind-blowing to me at the time like yeah yeah still kind of um but I think now like part of it is after having gone camping a few times like the the experience of actually being out there is so fulfilling that like part of what influences me is just to get out of civilization yeah and like rebalance my life I think Robbie and I kind of touched on this the first night when we were Wayne we're just talking about um when you come out here when you come out in nature it's totally different you know it's just a different experience and you feel like what was it like you said a guest or yeah it's like you're a guest in wilderness and it's like you're visiting somebody's home that's way better than your own yeah it's just an experience that you can't get anywhere like you can't simulate it or anything you have to go out there to get that experience yeah that's true so yeah even with our videos are like as much as people I've tried to capture the feeling either in writing or video or anything else it's like it doesn't even begin to capture you know it's just like something as simple as the fact that you can't do peripheral vision on a camera and like that so you need such a wide field of view to like really capture the scenes I'm yeah yeah like we just kept getting wider and wider lenses it's still in capture I remember that one episode where we like almost use the wide lens completely I've just gotten it how long is really bad as I really boring blurry house episode 34 hoosier hoosiers yeah that's I'm so forth zaleski is always the lost episode I always forget that that one is this whole season will under stair okay well me Brian we're talking I think like last week or sometime we're talking about musical influences mm-hmm it's like the different music that we listen to that kind of inspired the music that we write for the show yeah so do you want to speak to that a little bit sure I'll start um I think one of my biggest influences and I think Robbie you actually first introduced me to this person but Andy McKee lygon candyrat oh you know I wonder how cuz ain't feel like I found that drifting video I think you found it yeah okay and maybe I sent it to you or something but yeah I feel like you were the one who found it initially it was uh that was like one of the first viral videos yeah the andy mckee drifting video yeah yeah you said an MK he's an amazing acoustic guitar player and the music that he writes for a guitar isn't like boring generic stuff it's beautiful it's amazing it and it's complicated and it really evokes when we when we've listened to his music it really evoked this sense of you know you picture some sort of outdoor scene in your mind like I did the ocean yeah yeah I'm Rylan and things like that yeah man 1 cup like gates of Nome area yeah look at his music it's really good here's a song based on Super Metroid too yeah oh yeah what's that one called Samus start drivers yeah yeah yeah no it's funny because I used to have actually I still have that same playlist on my itunes but it's called adventure it's basically mostly indie exactly the same one do it's like camping playlist um but yeah his I aspire to make guitar music like his I'll never be as good as him but in the sense that um I try and like capture with some feeling when you listen to my song and most of it is usually like happy-go-lucky yeah but you know I tried but that's definitely one of my biggest influences especially since you know I play the acoustic guitar ah yeah that's true yeah bitch so did you start with guitar or did you start my very first instrument we start with piano right yeah started with piano and then I actually played saxophone in high school but writing music for saxophone doesn't really translate well if you don't have like the accompanying yeah yeah yeah yeah I'd like a whole group to do that yeah and then in high school I pick start picking up guitar because that was just the thing to do in high school was to learn good learn guitar and learn stairway to heaven but then I just kind of kept playing through college took a few classes oh and I guess it's worth saying that one of my first influences was John Mayer I liked a lot of his original stuff that was very acoustic heavy and also very friend from you know your typical pop guitar playing yeah my chords so there's another big influence there yeah I kind of feel like he covers a wide maybe I'm completely wrong about this but I feel like he covers like a wide uh like his songs are really varied yeah it seems like to me I think I followed his a lot of his musics ever since the beginning he started from very good like very acoustic type stuff and then he's I think it's because of his own decision in his own preferences he's transitioned to a much more bluesy jazzy to style where he uses a lot more electric guitar things like that but it's still good stuff because he writes complicated music which is what I like I don't like that simple stuff yeah any other influences I don't say those are the top two musical influences I'm curious about yours because like I know your exact style music that you like but like what are there any people that you can point it's funny because when I listen to music like whenever people talk about the music they listen to I'm kind of at a loss because I'll listen to one single song from an artist and like that's the only song of theirs that I'll ever listen to and it's like hard for me to branch out to their other songs because I i I'm just obsessed with that ones oh yeah but like the sort of music I like is very like ambient or like chill hip hop sometimes or like instrumental stuff I have some songs that will list off one is called it don't matter by cherokee there's another call nakamura by hiatus kaiyote and coffee by Sylvan Esso just look those up in YouTube well they're loading jobbies yeah yeah damage anything my new job is very um like relaxing yeah how to describe well it's like if you if you've watched samurai champloo it's like that feeling that you get when you watch that show that's very much your musical style yeah it's like I don't know what for me it evokes feelings of like evenings and dusk and dawn and actually I wrote a song and a red river gorge that was supposed to emulate one of his songs oh yeah I think you did a good job that's some I i would say Andrew would be hard for you to kind of come up with someone that influenced you because

you didn't really have like me and Robbie we had instruments that we kind of yeah the string player and you play piano and flute but those are kind of like not really flute yeah flute was just like in band and I'm i would love to cultivate my flute more but i don't know but uh oh absolutely but the next thing is with like the logic music program you can you can sift through all these cynthians i have a list on my phone of all these things that sound good yeah Andrew and I are supposed to collaborate on some music but we haven't gotten around to it oh that's quick side note we use logic pro 10 as our software of choice in fact i'm using it to record the pocket well it's funny cuz uh i think like one of the first songs in that style that it made you did the drum before but like when I got the program and stuff I was like I'm gonna learn how to do a drum be so I just SAT there the night before like practicing on the motto and then I finally like God yeah yeah that's that's pretty good actually because like I'm not sure if I would know what to do if I didn't actually play drums yeah yeah so hats off to you people then it has an actual rhythm thing and like fixes the beat for you about that importantly the world thank you it's called quantization and so like if you're just a little bit off the beetle like snap it to the beat yeah and I use it all the time to actually it's worth using it's not worth doing the trouble of trying to be exactly yeah yeah um so my musical influences first of all I mean you guys know this but just every song that I do is gonna have an electric piano I've told me one of my friends I've been showing the videos to she's like I'm gonna try and start guessing who's song is it like that's pretty easy it's crazy it's like no it's funny because like it's a very nice compliment because like you can you know like if you need a getting ready song I'm yeah I'm your man that's exactly it just got like he just started recently making making music yeah and his music is very ambient background were like um very chill Twilight kind of yeah like a upbeat like yeah let's go check out like it's a good day to go robbie's like man upbeat like yeah get moving yeah it's like like you it's actually it's funny because it's like beginning middle in like you can open up so it's my music yeah you can do the middle with yours and you're doing that yeah I think yeah that's weird I do every single opening song you ever sing closing smoking's Red River Gorge um yes Sam any extent yes wait no not your somebody on that Wayne Wayne yeah what are we used for opening song Yosemite the opening was uh some get ready song with us it was vain to stuff with the airport so and then there's that one song title sequence yeah which actually I wrote part of that and then you wrote the climax of that actually I was going to say Hoosier because i had the ending song and Hoosier but then we also did the opening song the fireflies song yeah oh right I forgot about that one yeah and I've been a good song is if we had Logic Pro back yeah yeah you guys used that I want to run through that one cuz i really like that song yeah yeah that was pretty good like as far as it voguing so we often base our songs on on a previous songs so like though it's a bad habit of ours when we finally we know this song that we like and we stick it over the footage and then we're like we gotta write a song exactly like that god it's so difficult I think we talked about that before probably yeah yeah but um yes we're getting off track yeah I don't want to yeah as far as actual people who have influenced me there's nobuo uematsu who is the composer for final fantasy and then actually I'll just name him because there's so many videogame composers but just video game music in general that's like my main thing like if you ask me what my favorite music is this is a lot of tail what I tell people is super nintendo music just something about it like there's the nostalgia factor but also it's just like it's very melodic because that sorry good oh no I just say it's very melodic because that type of music there's not that much you can do it the instruments are very like clear because I was recently reading a videogame form and they're like video game music likes in some games it's not actual video yeah it's like background orchestral music oh yeah they were talking about how video game music isn't as good that was a threat on neoga yeah yeah I kind of agreed and disagreed with some points cuz I feel like part of it he's looking at the past music through rose-colored glasses yeah but at the same time some of the music nowadays is less memorable but someone brought up a good point which is like go back then all you had was the game and the music and you know the gameplay yeah I need a good music to cover it but now we've got all these other narrative and you know cinematic features so the music doesn't have to play as no yeah the music was like a character almost an older games because that that's all there was exactly there was the visuals and then just a really strong melody but now it's like you've got all this story going on dialogue actually you know what it's like to me and it's funny because usually these sorts of games have the sorts of music but it's like some games you'll have these vastly different environments so the forest world the lava world is small and each one will have this unique really memorable song but then you've got like like I don't know gears of war or whatever where everything is grey and brown and you like you've got this little bit that's good yeah that's the one it's like call of duty I know some of them is really generic music that's just it sounds like something in like a crappy summer blockbuster yeah no those are great at like conveying emotion like when you hear like a call of duty score you like yeah let's go fight a war but it's not like you'll be humming the tunes like that bossa nova we've been humming on that like it's like we could probably hum as all the song from like one at least one Zell something every zelda game that's ever been out cuz yeah what mean lots of our songs are based like the ending of manitou that Zelda's Lullaby yeah yeah then really manage mammoth cave on the canoe that's Lake hi Leah yeah oh and then I don't you guys said it was more of chocobo but the 11 we're on the beach in manitou sounds so much like a wind waker no that is what is it makes its of that and chocobo oh I didn't know you can put that chocobo in there

um but on the topic of video games which kind of transitions her segues nicely yes topic or our next influence is video games have in the asus because okay so we've been playing video games for a long time and i would say probably it started with secret of mana and that's good is such a calm when its central like it's funny cuz there's three characters in it yeah that is really funny it's funny so secret of mana is this RPG for super nintendo and the music on there is super nostalgic to us um wait wait I gotta do a quick aside super of mana there's three players and there's dude there's the chick and there's a sprite so it's perfect because you always play the chick in every game so I'm the dude you're the chick and then you're the sprite cuz you're the youngest yeah right like the nature dude or yeah feels like a forest no that's so funny but this game is like it's about these three people who find each other and then they're just saving the world they're just going around this huge world and you know fighting monsters and just the feeling that it evokes um being able to go around the world and do battle with these monsters with your your friends yeah yeah it's just like something that we really love doing in video games and I think it's definitely a feeling that we always strive to accomplish or acquire when we go out on it yeah and that that's actually I think that's a big thing that we're trying to convey in the videos it's kind of what's almost I sometimes think of it as like we don't know how to program games and make games so this is our way of making an RPG because you had the visuals you got like the adventure together and you got the music and the music's heavily inspired by those type of games I remember secret of mana specifically before i bought it like we rented it so many times and we always got to the same point there's like guys naval and then you got to the first orb but I remember just going down like that guy is naval like the little little water pools yeah and it's like so it was such a feeling of like mystery and like what's beyond that because we would rent it and we would never get past that so when we finally got past it it was just like this mind-blowing experience of like oh my god there's more to this game and there's no one on the world war but it's funny how that imitates reality where like like we had like we'd been to parks and stuff like that but when we went to hocking hills it was like oh my god like stuff like this exists yeah I went to the Tetons yeah oh it's like we were just our minds were blown that's searcher like the Tetons are weird because it's almost like there's a skybox behind you and you're like there's a painting of it feels like yeah sure I think it's the mountains really do it yeah but yeah just video games in general like I mean even like halo like the coop nature of it of like riding together in a jeep and the way it evokes the mid like being on the halo like if you've never played halo it takes place in space but as concise as possible but they're like the mystery of exploring this new world oh yeah it's something that we I think we also look for magic when you first land on halo is like something they haven't been able to replicate in any other Halo games ya know they really haven't yet and I don't know if it's just like you can't replicate the first part of it is just how open it fills though like I feel like so many games are so linear these days yeah yeah but having this open world it's like I real feel you know like this open yeah speaking away shell particular game you want to mention Final Fantasy 6 I feel like it's in the same vein a secret of mana but it just like with such an adventure like you're just going like just walk on the overworld and there's beautiful music plane and it's just I don't know just to me Adventure archives is very much my desire to create something like that yeah you enjoy a game uh or crystal chronicles I totally forgot about this crystal chronicles i think is i would if i had to point to a single video game that spawned the idea of adventure archives I mean we call it adventure archives in the game's called yeah and this is called campfire yeah but do you want to tell describe what the game is or you want me to uh I don't yes I mean it's a multiplayer game where you're basically of entering in these different environments and the premises you're trying to like collect this mirror from crystal trees or whatever basically they're your three adventurers or more forward and you're like you're going out on this Caravan traveling around the world and like they show them like camping and stuff and they have a little book where they keep yes yeah i keeps track of your data and it like keeps it like a diary it's like yeah it's like that quintessential sort of Lord of the Rings fantasy feeling like of adventure I think I think one of the big things about it is that the game sort of kind of describes a coming-of-age for the video game characters so it's kind of like the feeling of Independence you get when you go on nature yeah yeah and then also the fact that you're a caravan meeting other people out there yeah people on the trail and yeah you know you feel like you already have a bond with them that's one of my favorite things about like any sort of adventure story is this feeling of like someone coming of age and like sort of bursting out of their bubble you know like cuz I don't know I I not a huge fan of lord rings but the hobbit movie was fantastic because like I'm it's just the story of the guy Bilbo Baggins and like he's this like he's basically a suburban house dad basically yeah but like then he has to go on this big adventure and like see all over the world and like yeah I don't know I just love that sort of premise yeah I think it's just those games with adventure that's survive you don't movies there's some movies that have inspired us to it's like Conan the Barbarian like that one is huge man like it's it's hilarious because hindman is like sidekick at one point they're literally just running across a field and like just going from point A to point B and they're not walking they're running but it's like this sense of I'm just exploration freedom and I think that's really a it is kind of funny to say that because we're just going on trails right and it's not like we're discovering new stuff but to be out there you kind of get that same feeling you know yeah I'm because you're out there ya know there's no walls between you and the rest world yeah I think princess mononoke is definitely another influential yeah yeah that's a huge on a beautiful movie speaking of which his music Joe Hisaishi yeah oh yeah that's big enough luhan's for ya the visual aesthetic of all those movies too is like to me that is like perfection I think like ya know is really good I can't really think of a movie influence like not off the top of my head at the very least I'm sure there is something Terminator 2 I mean that's just serious sort of yeah there's some aspect at cuz cuz ur lips are on the run from the Terminator and it's like a very like there aren't a lot of movies especially recently actually Star Wars especially oh really yeah that's agreement yeah that's true in that also has the whole coming-of-age aspected I don't know I love like parts in movies where they're like it's the night or the moment before they actually go off on the adventure I like the cantina scene and then in Hobbit there's like all the doors and they're singing a song around the fire for the next day's adventure it's like I'm in yeah just what is it about adventure that is so appealing like literally my dream job right now is to just travel the world or film it like I I would be happy to not have a home anymore and just go from point to point point but what is that what is that desire in humans to go explore I mean like the is that just some natural part of being a human or is there something specific do you think that I mean I feel like before the grand society that is what humanity was in a sense uh like you had these you were proud I don't know I feel like people were probably semi-nomadic where they had like a village but they could move and they had to keep moving and had to go out and hunt and stuff so every every time you hunted it was like an adventure that kind of makes me think of another video game actually page of Empires oh cuz it's this game where you start as like this little like Stone Age villain and then you like sanela villagers doc gazelle and one hour you're like the byzantine empire building like gigantic wall your army of like some dirty so i never played age of empires did you guys find out on the gateway pc mmm that was the very first game you've ever owned on a pc that's gonna came with it Oh ever we were playing it and I was just going what the heck do you do in the same for the last time I hated the color brown because one of our annoying friends wanted us to choose brown for completely petia yes I really we were at all it wasn't Thomas was it no Thomas I thought he liked purple yeah um okay well we're gonna take a quick break and then they'll be right back with more of campfire cronicas episode number ten yes and we're back so we're gonna talk about what improvements and things that were bringing for this next episode that we have been like oh I need this and I wish I had this but now we have it kind of like an extension from campfire chronicles 8 yeah from our experiences yeah that's I was like I knew how you talked about got a renewed sense of green oh and also a slider the sliders back oh that's true yeah yeah so for those of you don't know a slider is a little it's a slider you put the camera on it and then it'll slide the camera from left to right to get his really nice nah moving shots it's been frustrating because it doesn't fit perfectly on the tripod but it still does the job this one's carry always yeah that one in the winter Daleks thoughts I wanted to just toss it yeah so the one we had in dolly sods was probably 4 feet long and you can see it in that it would have been okay if the shot dead broke like yeah two minutes is the night with that was fine but yeah that was really unfortunate um ok but as far as like camping gear are you have you guys acquired anything or okay well um flown Wayne we made the smart choice of bringing rank which was very nice but now we have what meets me and Andrew we went out and got packed covers yeah um before that if I expected rain when I would do is I would put a big garbage bag in my backpack and so everything inside then yeah which essentially weren't the same but you know like the little pockets everything still got wet and I think the backpack got wet so got heavy I'm gonna do a proper bear hang this time like if I one where you don't have to rely on a tree with a perfect branch coming out 90 degrees and actually i watch black l outdoors video for pen oh good good well we could have had them do it for us since i made a video no problem for me so I this was the last straw way National Forest wasn't like a straw for rain I was like no I'm bringing my full tent so I'm gonna have the rain flying everything I bought a rain jacket and I have my backpack cover and I've already pre-cut a plastic bag for the camera so that we can waterproof it really nice yeah we need to do that for me do you like rubber bands or something just I got rubberband stick I got extra rubber bands oh I even I also brought it like that like a towel oh I brought a towel and i bought it i also so perfect um yeah just rain i mean i think it's a reality that just i finally needed to accept is that it is going to rain somewhere we're expecting rain this weekend it's guaranteed to sell this isn't just paranoia and sound really funny like we had the rain jacket on before it even started ringing but I also brought a fork and a spoon because every single time we're sharing one fork & 1 spoon and on this time they're gonna have enough for everybody I need to find my wooden spoon I'll might be in the garage wait on Wayne I know I brought a utensil and you didn't for that first night did you bring a utensil but we're eating the calzone sometimes red magic areas calendars oh why don't we talk about what food you guys are bringing I'm bringing some something a little bit different this time we just I can't talk about it well our viewer Meredith mcLaughlin Meredith McLoughlin she gave us a package full of a bunch of acts and stuff so we're bringing that I watched to know that yeah yeah it's awesome DUP that's in the last time I wish I want to vlog that later there's actually some sugar lists like vegan jerky well sweet yeah have meetings were bringing just like a few things on this trip so you can write a few she also included some ramen noodles so I'm bringing that stuff and I just got some like dried veggies and stuff and dried whittier at the asian market all goals I also got some various Jerky's Chinese Ricky's thanks yeah those are good alicious man take a lots of sugar but the delicious I'm actually trying something a little different this time so typically I would get like five bars with fiber in them from hyper but actually what I'm doing this time so this time actually I did is I got I've got a bunch of ziplock bags to like separate my food but I bought celery and I cut it up put in the ziplock bags and I'm just bring in a jar peanut butter oh just guys scoop that peanut butter wrappers with the celery and eat that on the stretcher on the trail oh and then I also pre made some sandwiches for like the first and second night okies yeah I forged some wild edibles today and I don't have a dehydrator so I might try drying them in the oven that works actually and you just have to low heat open the low yeah you have to do it right um and then is if it's Guinness sorry I say is it really necessary dehydrated for leaving tomorrow I don't know I just in principle I want it to be like something that could last on the trail that's how I was thinking about food is like principle um but if it's raining i'm hoping we'll find some dry at saddle mushrooms and and if we don't then Crom you can go it's a yes Connie the bargain um so I actually am bringing uh I brought two sweet potatoes cuz I thought we could put those in the then we'll stick them in the fire yeah we thought about hers though yeah oh you can't have fire not open fire oh well then maybe I won't bring those what we I can cook them ahead of time yeah I might do that in fact i will cook them i can bring

I also brought speaking of peanut butter I brought a thing almond butter and I was looking for bread that doesn't have sugar in it and I finally found it they have some in the freezer section that's like sprouted bread Oh the Ezekiel one right I think so yeah I think that's the brand but um yeah there's no sugar in that so I'm bringing a loaf of bread and almond butter so I'm looking forward to some nice totally random but kind of funny thing sure so recently we took the stuff out of Andrews car I'm Wayne and the bagels that I brought were still there my god and they are not moldy Wow I was just like you know what mmm probably not gonna get those bagels no it's like that when you look at the list of ingredients and you see some of the like preservatives they have at the end your life this thing's must be really effective niggas like yeah some ingredient that goes into yoga mats also goes into like subway bread or something oh I did hear about that yeah yeah that's weird google at yourself though I don't know yeah that's a long topic but anyways but I bought a bag of popcorn that I was gonna share with the black owl guys so I was gonna keep it secret but since they're not gonna be coming I think I'm just gonna eat it I was gonna show you is there something special that's pop no it's just popcorn I just thought it'd be funded I gotta we gonna hop it no it's just like a bag i bought its story oh awesome though it is a camper one that would be super awesome we might even be able to do that yeah fendi worth trying no I brought squid jerky beef jerky and tofu jerky for the black nice next time but yeah I was like I wanted to get them like some type of gift but I totally forgot about it I'll bring something really bizarre Nate a rock-solid this time I was going to but my pack is already really heavy so I don't want to bring a bunch of avocados a big pit Bobby people always ask why you carry around the glass jars just because it's there already in the glass jars and it's never it's broken once and that wasn't in nature that was in the parking lot look in every fantasy game cuz that's a reliable source of but in every fantasy game you got glass bottles for your potion yeah yeah yeahs be that much of a stretch classic probably isn't a thing in this fantasy so yeah you know but it's doable random thing on silo crowd though um I and my parents would like to buy some sauerkraut if you ever make more we want to do that Rob styling it's pretty good oh yeah that Rob's house I was surprisingly do if we just randomly coming up with it on the source a crowd is just so adorable yes don't you have to rinse it or something I don't know I don't know but they when you put preservatives in a food that has bacteria in it like you know something's wrong like it needs a bacteria there are some i was gonna say though Oh what is the bear situation in Shannon oh the same it was in smokies and red river gorge and others black bears so yeah yeah I am well we've got a bear spray okay um I took a little bit extra precaution I've put my food in ziplock bags and then I've also got a waterproof sack that I plan on putting all my trash and anything that smells in there yeah when we hang it up and then we made sure to get a decent length of cord to ya for food bags so like one of the I guess the most important thing I think when you're going into bear country is just basically don't have the smell like prevent the smells from attracting the Bears and you'll be fine you know yeah so like take a cook well I was reading up on some of this they said you know don't let your backpack get food smells in it if you're going to keep it with you and your tent okay um change your clothes if you're gonna cook food because you know you get that food smell on there so like have a pair of clothes dedicated for just sleeping at night see that's perfect though because like with the rain I think one good idea is just to have your daytime clothes where it gets wet and then have a dry pair for a nighttime yeah of course we're not cooking anything I don't know what you guys if you guys are cooking anything serious just rice yeah we're not really cooking anything that's like bacon grease you know popping all over us and that should be that big a deal but it's always better to err on the side of caution when it comes to bears I guess cuz I feel like there's some famous last words of there that are like mush and I'm not worried about bears yeah yeah we haven't had any run-ins with bears no bear attacks are very rare yeah yeah be safe yeah it's it's not like it's rare but it's like when it happens you're gonna be likable I regret this very much oh yeah that would be really gross we should talk about what you do if you encounter a bear cuz uh well what you do is you want to make noise but nothing like loud and ferocious sounding just like something to alert it and wait for it to go away if it charges you with the Black Bears you just like if it starts attacking a you fight back a black bear mm-hmm you actually fight yeah you just fight for your life and until it'll go away go for the eyes cuz I'm gonna say that might not be a fight that's winnable with black bear it might be with a grizzly you just curl up into a ball and wait and pray oh really I actually read that there's more effect yeah then uh um a gun a gun yeah i mean about man Barris is what's round ears brown bears are just uh they're quite a bit i mean what's the brows furrowed shares are grizzlies basically like there's brown bears as a general category under which grizzly bears are categorized which is the one that's really Frizzle ease okay the worse of the two I'm also hard polar bears are bad but we don't think we have that yet you got home yeah Grizzlies Oh Calvin and Hobbes Calvin and Hobbes is a huge info going back on topic ya know though the art and Calvin and Hobbes is so beautiful like it's a comic strip but it's the most beautiful comics actually my computer screen saver is just a cycle of calvin hobbes pictures mmm they took calvin hobbes and then superimpose them on real pictures yeah that's like exactly how i feel like that going the water was in that a youthful adventure ya know he um I've read one time that he would actually take like the ones from the yard yeah take sticks from the yard and dip them in Inked to like make is like comics sometimes wow so I give it a natural fuel I think bill Aymond who does Foxtrot was talking about that wow that's really interesting yeah that's a big influence on her it's a good thing you thought of that yeah yeah yeah he always just goes on like go on adventures in the wilderness which is funny because there's also strips where his dad takes family camping located hates it yeah it's it's it's like our family um like our dad is very into nature and our mom it's just like I can't we just go to a hotel I have a friend named Brad who actually wants to go on a trip with us but anyway he was talking about how like his family with we drive all the way from Ohio down to Florida or no from Michigan to Florida well and they would camp like in a parking lot right next to a walmart and it's like why why are you doing this like what what did they like at least a day later all walmart parking lot but like it was basically a parking lot but I mean they do like day hike so like somewhere they must've or something yeah yeah that would be not I guess not fully criticizing because everybody experiences in the issue there only no I mean ass but not what I think I don't know if it does yes story I think there's some nasai me that's what I heard yeah yeah but like if you want to go to a park and stay in a camper more power to don't be within walking distance of a Walmart though like just don't but like yeah if you want to go out and experience nature go out and experience nature don't like just do it halfway you you've got to get the full experience no I think it's totally okay whatever you want to do it that that story's just really was honored that you would drive like 20 hours to play as Easter you can do the walmart thing just don't drive to me that was the part that was weird um but it's funny because the only time before we went camping with my brother was that I can remember that I ever went camping was we went with our mutual aunt she took like the whole family all because I like was I even that's a good question i don't remember when was this when we went car camping that one time and then we just like we all took like two Suburbans and then we camped at like literally an RV parking lot I don't have ever been at it all oh man yeah and we slept in his huge tent I don't remember what year it was but wow I don't remember that yes that was that was what I thought it was for the longest time I was like that's what camping is who on earth wants to do that and then afterwards I realize that there's a lot more to it but that's what I thought it was for a long death so camping can be fun if you're like with your friends and you got some beers or something ya know this is a griller like I'm totally down for that like if we're gonna just you know play on RDS and the 10 but when you say that you don't go to what the mindset of being in the wilderness you go yeah mine said it was hanging out yeah hang out with your friends in the world yeah yeah nature just yeah just somewhere outside of your house yeah it's like a nice changes see ya but even then like if I get a funny thing my friends and still be more fun like in the back that's true yeah what was then you have to worry about like that can stuff in it what is the alcohol policy on Camping's the actually it I think it depends like I'm pretty sure you're allowed to bring it if it's not in a glass container or anything like um I mean I'm sure there's some parts where it's restricted but I think like it certainly doesn't stop people cuz we see ya yes and like just like why would you put that stuff in a fire pit like just clean it up yeah cuz they're drinking one thing I can't think anything like flats and stuff see I think it'd be really fun except for it's just like I don't want to feel bad the next day it was like when I'm camping and hiking stuff I want to be like my peak physical I think that that is why people when they do go out and drink it's like out of camps yeah yeah cuz im looking worried about you good just like stumble home oh god never sleep till like two minutes oh you know in a hammock I don't think I us have ever really drink and welcome but know so many people do I mean like back but no us like backpacking no I know I mean like it's funny how many people do and like that's what they do if they go camping really all right I have so much weight already taken up by water I don't need more weight taken up by alcohol yes that's not gonna do anything for me yeah uh I don't know if I should tell the story but it's just totally ran because we were talking about for its the Stalin's late okay so one time I just really wanted to go out and like spend a night just outside so I called alum creek state park or whatever and uh um reserved a night had one of their campsites to go with my brother and one of my friends was supposed to meet actually two of my friends were supposed to meet us there but one of them had to work or something so she couldn't make it till later in the day and the other one canceled at the last moment so an Andrew oh okay well first of all we got to this park and then there's a football game going on because it's Saturday so there's a bunch RV's already like in this parking when these areas and I campsite was like right next to this little not sewage but it didn't smell the best Yeah right and so we set up our stuff and then um we spent that night there and then in the morning I think it was her in the morning right no I when I left him in ya know I I had to leave the night before exact ok so we spent the night there we had the campfire and we ate food and Andrew had to leave that night I had some friggin homework to do or something and I needed a computer and I was like this is the worst he went home that night I spent I'm pretty sure I spent that night along there and then the next day I literally spent half a day just sitting in my hammock because Andrew wasn't there and my friend couldn't come until later the day I'd spent like 30 boxers or fingers like I was like this is you can cancel is right there like there was a cancellation fee there's a cancellation fee and I was like twelve bucks look like they're there are good state parks in Ohio some that you can actually back back at if you camp like we do alum creek is not one of them yeah if you're going there to boat and fish great but but it's like it was funny because even the forests that are like they have a couple trails or whatever but even the force are full of like invasive plants and like you can just tell it's an unhealthy forest yeah and I went there one time during the day with a friend and then after that we went to this nature preserve that's like not far from there called a shale hollow it's Delaware County nature preserves and that like you could tell immediately this force was much more healthy I had all these native plants and like just the feeling like I don't think you have to know the plans to know that I lb forest

that's interesting I never even thought about that before but yeah there is a certain feeling you get from yeah well the unhealthy force will have all this brush II invasive stuff and like you'll feel like you can't walk the route basically but very true but the high and we had the root beer we had heart room heart root beer ah that's more than it was just like your classic camp food yeah yeah wow we haven't had smores ever on any of the episodes s'mores you know I'm not big on s'mores any more like they're just so big on s'mores just haven't had one another what does hungry well roasting marshmallows is really fun yeah like I think that's my favorite part about s'mores this is like it's just like the the sport in it right is that perfect mark yeah lieutenant toast it real perfect i was just a little bit crispy on the outside got everyone's got their own technique i put it in the fire the reason out of the fire as I everybody's discussing techniques i call you get it yeah yeah like inevitably everybody always talks about how you roast a memory and there's always someone that's like all like burnt and it's one game I like the boys you've always been the one that like put your marshmallow deep in the fire and I'm like it's gonna catch on it catching up on you go what's funny cuz that's very much like morel mushroom hunting for me cos i'm actually not a huge fan of morel mushroom time they're good but I'm not like crazy weapon but back to finding a sport yeah the thrill of the hunt yeah I hate the way they look oh yeah my god can't say I love it I had that specific brain damage where it's certain textures just make me like one of the phobia yeah die and then morel mushrooms are other I was actually talking with Andrew we should do an episode where we each pack like in foil a really nice meal like one person brings like some nice shredded potatoes for like breakfast somebody brings like all rights and vegetables for no speaking of which and we just have ourselves some good meals that's a good thanksgiving dinner mmm that's true oh maybe i don't know should we do that this episode or wait frame special occasion I don't know well I'm just thinking with the Bears maybe not do elaborate cooking's I mean I've already got all my stuff back acton I mean everywhere you go is gonna have bears outside of i/o like we've been plenty of places with bears already oh yeah boss I mean I'm just weird I just already got all my food playing down so yeah I'd be okay with this I'm just getting hungry yeah you know that bag of popped popcorn I'm gonna bring it in any good um okay well why don't we were already almost at an hour so do you guys have any closing thoughts I have a plane you one question chest and Frank daily um which he has a while ago but we didn't address it until now ok so Frank daily is actually interesting character he is a truck driver so he actually gets to go all over the country and see lots of different stuff yeah Oh remind me to print out a sheer write down all the shoutouts we have to say by the way because Oh in the episode yeah yeah if you go to patreon.com/scishow venture you can support this show by donating money and every time we release a full-length episode and only a full-length episode you will get charged whatever you decide to donate you can do two dollars or you can do a hundred dollars and there's different rewards that you get for each monetary level and one of them is a shout out but anyway so Frank daily has a question yeah um so one of them is does the Andhra still use a you know sock yeah I do every time I always pack my clothes in the Union sock usually because it doubles as like a centrist exactly yeah um so yeah I do at night it's great my feet are warm yeah um have you ever seen any Stone Age markings like petroglyphs or Indian tree markers or fish dams while out and I actually might have been Frank daily you pointed this out but there is a tree that likes like Benton Zaleski yeah that did sort of look like an Indian market it look exactly like Wes oh I'm almost well I'm not familiar with us what is that so it's a tree where it's like it goes up and then it bends not almost nine degrees and goes back up and basically like I think how they did it is they take saplings and tie them to the ground until they grew back but it was like a way for Native Americans to mark trails and stuff oh that's awesome it you know I I stopped that when I saw that tree anza levski but i also like I think it had some damage so I wasn't sure if maybe that's what was causing it cuz like there was a part that is opened up I think and those are all good swing slide on the top but I mean that just could have been natural day over time yeah that does happen sometimes actually like if you have a sapling and a tree falls on it and bends it down and then it starts growing back oh um and then in Colorado I did see some petroglyphs at on this petroglyph trail in mesa verde and also also saw giant cliff dwelling palaces um oh you know what in Puerto Rico I did go see this cave called cueva ventana the window cave and there were petroglyphs from the indigenous people there who are called that I know what at what are petroglyphs anyways oh they're carvings on rocks basically oh yeah what's the petrol part rock rock Petra life oh and then um what do you look for in a hiking boot and what kinds do you prefer actually oh I just actually bought a new hiking boot the other day I'll give them another one next time it was a deal you buy wanna yeah ya know but uh when I said get one free about two days later but actually when I was trying this boot on well first of all I should say that I have a little bit of a foot foot problem my left foot so I was looking for something that was comfortable but apparently they don't make hiking boots with good cushioning um so I was just looking for something that fit my foot well that wasn't cramping my foot and then also I decided to actually go with a boot that comes up a little bit higher over the ankle I think a lot of our boots before work came up like just a little bit best yeah just not much yeah and I just felt like I don't know about you guys I don't know how you guys walk around with that steady cam and not fall over but when I feet get tired I tend to like kind of like let my feet fall on the ground and warmly oh yeah so I don't know if you this happens to you but a lot of the times and you probably notice it from time to time but i will like my ankle will twist not like bad but like it'll like you know it'll boost it'll roll yeah it'll roll exactly and I'm worried that some day that it will cause a problem on the trail so I said more ankle support so that's basically what I was

was it vas kiss or was it some I think that's my brain now it's uh I don't know now I forget it starts with an R but I could go look at it so my number one thing is that it has to be waterproof like that's if your mind right now yeah I mean it wasn't yeah the one I started with was not waterproof when I started with with like a sneaker yeah it was almost like a sneaker yeah but um you have to have waterproof boots it just makes life so much better yeah you know for me what one of the problems I had with the original boots that I wore which are like in every episode up to Yosemite um was they my feet are narrow I think in the boots were a little too wide so like especially like in Hoosier when we're walking on the sides of hills the whole time and like so we were kind of at a diagonal like my feet kept sliding and those given me lots of blisters so I'm so weird cuz my feet are wide and I can't wear narrow boots yeah I tried on their regular size boots at rei and I was like this is not well it has to be a perfect fit basically cuz ya know just any movements like in your sock or your shoe will cause blisters it's just movement another thing though you need to be aware of is sometimes if you don't tie your boot right or if you don't tie it tightly you're gonna move around regardless yeah this so what one thing I've been thinking recently those like I want to get some moccasins or something like I don't know where you get moccasins but like I don't know I was hiking around with my boots recently and I was like these are really heavy compared to shoes like I mean I like them but I want to be able to have light feet gun I went to like this craft show once and there was a moccasin producer and I think he was in Ohio so don't you like look on the internet i'm sure we could find like some artisan I'm not love ya cuz i feel like i don't know i feel like the indigenous footwear is like probably gonna be the best I always um sorry I don't mean interrupt you but I always wondered why you guys didn't bring why used to do this but I why you guys never brought like flip-flops or something because once you get to a campsite I think it'd be really nice to just kick off your boots and put on some things I can just slip on think sometimes I just go barefoot why don't I do that it's also nice moment like you're going in and out of ten or something so I mean you guys probably know about this but like there's proprioception have you heard that term so it's likelier if your foot is always in a shoe kind of loses the ability to naturally react to like touch so it's not used to like being able to walk on sticks and stones and all that stuff and it doesn't have like all the nerve endings built up to like be able to deal with it and react to it quickly or the calluses right yeah or the calluses too but like that's kind of the problem that we run into as modern people is that we're always in shoes so if you do try to do moccasins you probably need to break yourself and do it first I mean ever gonna warm yourself up to a side before it's been a while for me now but I mean I do like especially in the warm season I like to go outside bare feet don't tell me Mom but no no like in the forest uh it is fun to walk barefoot and like feel everything in like yeah build up your calluses again and you know those liburan 50 fingers yeah five min five fingers vibrant because those blacks are really cool because you did feel like you were barefoot but um yeah you had some protection against like sharp stuff mm I don't have those anymore speaking of vibram fivefingers the reason we call it that because of Bear Grylls yeah and then it's a dead zeroes unless Strad I guess we could call another influence too oh yeah those are almost too obvious to me yeah that's a good point yeah yeah and Ramires Ramires out yeah yes so I'm what was i again i was a bryan grills brian girls Robbie Robbie mirror out wait isn't there somebody else to uh I mean there's no who really called Thomas that's what I'm thinking there's Cody Lundin there's Mike on Turkish Lansky ya know something that he could be proud of hold up Michael hunt is Michael hawk would make like a high collar but the reason I got this confuses cuz they both sound like I still think it's weird right his name actually is mike mike hawk was just like Bear Grylls is that his real name so they don't say mike hawk mike hawk Oh Michael huh that's why he always says his name's Michael hawk in the bit in the show just like it never occurred to me until you brought it up yeah now there's like Joseph Teti there's so much drama between some of these like it is hilarious like guys you're just outdoorsman's ok stop with this teenage girl promise Thomas is unbelievable Thomas is David dingleberry Dave Canterbury baby yeah so we call Dave Canterbury David dingleberry and not because it's not it's not for any reason other than just we think depot dingleberries funny I didn't know no actually yeah yeah I would think of Thomas's the canoe guy Oh what's his name um show masondo Mason yeah I know what people haha people see my den and I know what they're thinking yeah look up bill mason Waterwalker Waterwalker yeah he's even got a song theme song hey what a walk and that that movie more than Athan made me want to go canoeing I love good we knew it was great man mammoth came that was awesome we're gonna do another Canadian episode yeah definitely for season 3 my friend and I have these joke debates we're like I'll say that cats are better than dogs and he'll say the opposite and we'll have arguments about today's risk I axis like which ones better he's like a hag is more seaworthy like news for you in touch they are finest night on the ocean I don't know what I you know that's right yeah I don't know what ol Simpsons that's a huge influence right there not for anything other reason and just like I think it you could say it's an influence around humor yeah it's huge yeah like that is our sense of humor if it weren't for the simpsons I would never have any jokes to talk I'd have no idea that like yes and most of the jokes are subsequent very specific jokes that only certain people can get effect there's only two people who I can really any simpsons quote they'll get in us you and my brother there's the only two people i know who i could just like get a simpsons quote and they know what I'm talking about like sometimes we'll have to remind each other it's like oh that's from that one episode yeah all right we spent like 10 minutes talking about that Frazier quote oh yeah yeah actually from family guy oh go through that like Oh what episode was it from yeah what was it that it was some family guy episode where he's trying to look Brian the dog was trying to make Peter classy uh I was making him watch frasier and then the TV show Niles guys like frasier your mother so corpulent and she sits around of magnitude magnificently appointed tuscan villa she sits around the Magnificent escamilla and we're trying to figure out what the quote was for all we care say like encrusted oh my god that's good times good times um ok so we're right at an hour so I think we can close it up any any final thoughts any final words of wisdom anybody hungry I'm all right um no go ahead no oh I guess just to reiterate you know I guess we kind of went a little off topic in the second half but you know tell us about your influences we're very curious to hear about what draws you our listeners to you know go outdoors and to find that adventure and I think it's something that's always fun to share oh and then I'll that know what inspires you like who who these days is inspiring you and like what is inspiring you like us for me lately just like I've been watching a lot of vlogs and there's i watch these bloggers I'm like get good on you man I love watching these videos and every time I see him it like increases that sense of adventure for me mmm so if you guys have stuff like that let us know yeah okay anything else oh thanks everybody for your support yeah please like us on Facebook Like us on Instagram subscribe to our YouTube channel support us on patron because it's helping a great deal yep patreon.com/scishow adventure thank you for listening alright don't put the fire out